I hear I missed a big debate last week. The “postpartum depressionĀ is real/I’m not sure about motherhood” versus “motherhood is hard so just man up ladies/motherhood is the best thing on the planet” camp. I’m kind of glad I missed it, in a way, because it might have led to some serious high blood pressure on my part. I might have been blogging from the hospital while having surgery for a myocardial infarction. At least they’d have internet there.

It all started with Heir to Blair writing about motherhood and how it just hasn’t been what she expected, after she read a piece at another blog on the topic.

“Itā€™s not that I thought it would be 24/7 picnics & skipping & lollipops & unicorns that fart magic fairy dust that makes puppies fly. But I didnā€™t think Iā€™d have a baby that screamed at me all day. I didnā€™t think Iā€™d have moments where I wished I could just put him in a cage with toys & walk away for an hour. I didnā€™t think I would wind up in the hospital being sedated to sleep. I didnā€™t think that Iā€™d have so many moments where I just felt like, ‘OH MY GOD, I canā€™t do this anymore. I donā€™t WANT to do this anymore.’ā€

She received 217 responses on that post, and most of the commenters agreed with her. But then there were some whose responses truly concerned me, and some that were outright hateful. This is highly pertinent to Postpartum Progress because Blair has postpartum depression, and PPDĀ was drawn into the comments. I’ve decided to write about some of the comments individually, so that we can break down the myths that still exist.

Here goes …

“I feel really sad that there are so many people that agree with you on this. I think it is great support which you are obviously desperate for but I am shocked at how many people have this feeling. I never thought that becoming more fulfilled with my life after I had my daughter would make me an outcast.”

“Motherhood has been the best experience of my life. Yes there are definitely days where Iā€™m ready to tear my hair out and hope that he takes a LONG nap, but honestly those days are not numerous, and I definitely donā€™t question my choice to become a mother. Iā€™m so saddened by so many people saying that they do, Iā€™m glad they feel comfortable admitting it, but it still saddens me. I donā€™t feel I was lied to at all, but then I donā€™t look to others to form my opinions or draw conclusions from, I look at every situation myself, of course NOTHING is unicorn farts and rainbows all the time, NOTHING in life is that, and for every mom, or soon to be mom out there, if that is what you seriously expected I feel very sorry for you.”

When a mother admits that motherhood is hard, or that some days she wishes she could be off on an island by herself, it doesn’t mean she doesn’t love her child or isn’t fulfilled. It means she’s normal. Plenty of women feel this way, and not just those with postpartum depression.

I am a mother with two children who believes that there is nothing else she could ever do that wouldtop being a mother to her children. I love them so much that it takes my breathaway. Truly. At the same time, I guess because of my anxiety, or my personality, or my difficult childhood or who the hell knows what, they overwhelm me and there are times when I feel I just don’t know what I’m doing and would like a break. To the commenters on Blair’s blog and those who just love judging other mothers: You NEVER know where a woman is coming from. You don’t know what stresses she has in her life, from financial to marriage to other issues. You don’t know what kind of childhood she had and what kind of mother she had,and how that colors her view of motherhood. You don’t know what kind of child she has: a healthy, easy, happy-go-lucky child or a screaming, colicky, difficult personality child. Unless she is a dear friend, you don’t know a whole lot about her personality. For example, if she is truly a perfectionist, then even though she logically understands that motherhood is not perfect, the experience of not being in control will be extremely difficult for her. All these things can affect how a woman views motherhood and just because you think it’s just fab doesn’t mean she should.

Oh, and there is no black and white on this subject. It’s not that you either think being a mother is the most wonderful thing in the world or you hate it. Believe it or not, you can love your children and be a good mom while at the same time questioning yourself and feeling frustrated and wondering whether you ever should have had kids in the first place.

“Iā€™m sorry you feel lied to, but I think the most important thing we can do as mothers is to think about how YOU would like your life to be if you were your child. Would you want a mom that wishes she were somewhere else while she cares for you? Or is thrilled to put your to sleep for the night? Weā€™re all able to mold our lives into something that makes us happy. Sometimes itā€™s just time to pull ourselves up by the bootstraps and put others first.”

Oh goody. The bootstraps argument. Reserved for those who are completely ignorant about mental illness. Blair is having a really hard time with motherhood right now, as many women do, but hers is made that much harder by having severe postpartum depression. Bootstraps do not apply.

“I mean if you really want to change, to be the mother you wanted to be, change your perspective. Read some stories about mothers who have sick babies and use that as your comparison for ‘bad days’. Sometimes when DD is being ‘the terrorist’ I think to myself ‘Well, at least she is healthy, because it could be a hell of a lot worse’.”

You can be sure that in any debate such as this the “there are starving people in China” argument will surely raise its head. Just remember how much worse off someone else is and then you’ll be okay. I wonder if they say that to people with cancer? Just remember about the person whose house burned down, and then they were fired, and then their pets ran away, and then their whole family died, and then you’ll feel SO MUCH BETTER about having cancer!! Yay!!!

Perhaps you weren’t aware that perspective pretty much goes out the window when you have postpartum depression.

“Iā€™ve always thought your PPD was a total front. You just hate being a mother because it didnā€™t work out the way you wanted. People want to come see him now and NOT YOU. Itā€™s all about him now and NOT YOU.”

Oh, and here’s the “she’s just selfish/lazy/weak” argument. You knew that one would come up. Because, of course, we women with perinatal mental illnesses have control over how we are feeling and how our brains are working. The real reason for all of this is that we just hate not being the center of attention anymore/hate having to do all this damn work/are just defective humans who can’t handle life.

You’re right, commenterperson! I’m sure Blair is enjoying being miserable, and in fact CHOSE to be hospitalized in a PSYCH WARD because she’s just not the center of attention anymore. I CHOSE to go crazy because I just didn’t want to wipe noses and butts and have everyone coo over the baby instead of me.

Bullshit.

“I just donā€™t see how you could be bored with Harrison when you only see him like 3 hours a day. I would think you would be DYING to see him. Trying to eat him up, almost. Not being bored because heā€™s splashing in the tub and happyā€¦”

Many new mothers are thrilled to see their babies splashing in the tub. Not all mothers, though, are that fortunate. They may have illnesses that prevent them from enjoying these kinds of moments. Imagine for a second that, like me, every time your baby was in the tub all you could think about was him or her drowning. Not only did I not enjoy watching him splash in the tub, I couldn’t give him a bath for the entire first year of his life because I was SCARED TO DEATH.

Again, it’s easy to make assumptions that all mothers should have the same feelings you have. It’s not fair.

“There has never been one moment that I wanted to walk away. I can understand feeling stressed, tired, etc. But this whole wanting my life back/canā€™t believe how horrible life is with a baby thing is shocking to me! And it seems that most people who agree are not suffering with PPD. I truly hope that those of you who feel this way will think long and hard about having another baby. I just canā€™t imagine directing all of that negative energy towards a babyā€¦that you chose to bring into this world. No wonder they are miserable little beings.”

“What exactly did you think motherhood was going to be? Your overall tone shows your strong dislike for motherhood and being with your child. And yet you have mentioned before wanting to have more children ā€“ it sickens me to think that more children would be subjected to your feelings.”

Someone hold me down.

How terribly insulting. She’s not abusing her child. She’s not neglecting her child. She hasn’t run away. She hasn’t quit. She takes care of him and loves him the best she can. She’s reached out for help with her postpartum depression. So she expresses her misgivings and her conflicting feelings and now she shouldn’t have children?! Wow.

When I was sick with postpartum OCD I had the “strong dislike for motherhood” you mention. Who the heck wouldn’t? Prior to becoming a mom, I was fine. After becoming a mom, I went straight down the tubes, descended into hell and had a plan for killing myself. But guess what? After a long recovery and much professional help I was and AM fine. And I had another baby. And I’m a rockin’ momma. Don’t you dare say that women with perinatal mental illness shouldn’t have children, or that women who experience motherhood differently than you shouldn’t have children. Don’t you dare.

“If you didnā€™t already have PPD, I would have suggested getting yourself checked because the harsh statements about motherhood that you made are really only relevant to those that are going through PPD. I hope the expecting first time mothers or those thinking about having children who read this post understand this is coming from a dark place.”

Not true. In general, the statements expressed by Blair are things many moms feel. They aren’t reserved for women with postpartum depression. I don’t think saying that sometimes you wish you were somewhere else means you have PPD, and I don’t think saying that you feel like no one told you the truth about motherhood means you are necessarily coming from a dark place.

While most women have some idea that motherhood will be a difficult challenge, NO ONE expects or has an understanding of how devastating perinatal mental illness is until she is hit with it. Period. As far as Blair is concerned, no one DID tell her the truth about how her motherhood experience would be, because no one can ever really tell a mother what it will be like if she gets PPD. You only understand it if you’ve been through it. That being the case, I believe that what she wrote was partly arrived at from her PPD experience and partly arrived at because she’s a normal mom with normal motherhood frustrations.

Others weighed in on this as well. Here are Lauren Hale’s and Amber Koter’s responses to this debate as well. Also, check out the post at Not Super … Just Mom andĀ the response from the mom at Disasters in Domesticity. What do you think?